From: James Smallwood
To: steve@getipm.com
Cc: dick@midcont.com ; bill@agairupdate.com ; hoair@cableone.net ; bill@agairupdate.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: Crop Dusters..................A point of view?
Dear Bill, It's your insistence that these poisons are
"safe" (sic) that alarms me. If you had the slightest bit of
awareness regarding their harmfulness I would at least not feel as frightened.
You're like the guy carrying the bomb, and assuring me it's safe because it's
you who's dropping it. Crop dusting is your livelihood, so I imagine it would
be impossible to admit your potentially causing harm to other beings, and
continue to keep your your job. To keep your job, it's probably useful to
believe that what you're doing is somehow "safe". I also don't care
to argue differences with you; however I have seen the UC study proving
organic produces more. Besides, some of us don't really want more food, we
simply want to have an environment where us and are children don't have to be
exposed to poisons. And if I had my way, I'd love to see you put out of
business. James Smallwood Pesticide Awareness and Alternative Coalition By the
way Bill, you're probably thinking, "Oh Mr. Smallwood, just another
granola, another one of those environmentalist, tree huggers, doom-sayers".
Well, I'm not even an environmentalist. I'd like to go back to the days when
we didn't have poisons, and polluted air, back to the days when we didn't have
people like you poisoning our environment, (we had strawberries before we had
pesticides) and then making us wrong because we don't want to have to worry
about getting sick, getting cancer, having to deal with the stress and worry
of poisons in the air we breathe. I'm sick of people like you who feel
entitled and justified to poison our air, and don't seem to have the slightest
bit of conscience about it. On top of that, you treat us like a bunch of
stupid complainers, just a bunch of whiners, who because of some birth defect
or mental retardation are missing the part of their brain that should
understand you, accept you, even
embrace you for protecting us from all those bad, bad bugs. Do me a favor
Bill, just go away.
Go get 'em, Steve!
Jackie
Jackie Alan Giuliano, Ph.D.
From: Sharon Rickert
To: 'Steve Tvedten'
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 6:54 PM
Subject: RE: [WSMCSN] Crop Dusters..................A point of view?
Steve,
Yes!! Get him! I haven't had so much fun since Nixon resigned. You don't need to respond if you don't want to. I know you are busy.
From: Macmerrill@aol.com
To: steve@getipm.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Cropduster's, a point of view?
Steve .. Send these two letters for publishing in the SF Chronicle or LA Times ... this guy is so off base and naive about the stuff he is using that I think the public might be a little aghast at who is out there making decisions about what, when and where to spray poisonous and cancer-causing substances ... for no reason, since, as you say, GRAS materials and/or good old organic practices, work. Merrill
From: "Sharon Rickert" <sharon@holoweb.com>
To: "'Steve Tvedten'" <steve@getipm.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 3:58 PM
Subject: RE: [WSMCSN] Re: Cropduster's, a point of view?
Steve,
A pamphlet produced by which pesticide manufacturer? :) I hope he doesn't think you are really that stupid. I am very much enjoying your
contribution.
I think we are soon going to see an increase in poisoned people because of the Taliban
situation and continued grievous incompetence by American doctors who are brainwashed by corporations ($$) or unwilling to increase their knowledge in this area. Please let us/me know when you come across
examples of this too.
Sharon
Hi Steve,
The reference Mr. Lavender wants about the 4.2 billion pounds of
pesticides used in the US is Aspelin, A.L.; Grube, A.H., Pesticides
Industry Sales and Usage: 1996 and 1997 Market Estimates, U.S.
Environmental Protection Agency, Office of Prevention, Pesticides and
Toxic Substances, publication 733-R-99-001, November 1999. Downloadable
from http://www.epa.gov/oppbead1/pestsales/.
Susan
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Susan E. Kegley, Ph.D., Staff Scientist/Program Coordinator
Pesticide Action Network, North America Regional Center
49 Powell Street, Suite 500, San Francisco, CA 94102
Phone: (415) 981-6205 ext. 316, Fax: (415) 981-1991
From: James Smallwood
To: Steve Tvedten
Cc: Bill Lavender ; Dick Reade ; Glenn Holloway
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Crop Dusters................A point of view?
Thanks Steve,
As former psychologist I suggest another tact that Bill
might consider and that is that these complaints from TN are simply from a
bunch of cranks who's symptoms are obviously "all in their head". By
the way, I would also suggest a "new policy"; that people do not get
blanket permission to use pesticides, and that before they get to, they have
to prove their safe.As at is, it seems sort of backwards that people just get
to use poisons designed to kill, and if we don't want them in our environment
then we have to prove they're unsafe.!!??!?!?
Jim Smallwood
Pesticide Awareness and Alternative Coalition
The drifting effect is called " Grasshopper Effect "
Ed Bryan
Health care Liaison For Gulf War veterans
Disabled Gulf War veteran
Steve,
We really like your Dear Crop Duster letters! John and Gail
From: James Smallwood
To: steve@getipm.com
Cc: dick@midcont.com ; bill@agairupdate.com ; hoair@cableone.net ; bill@agairupdate.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: Crop Dusters..................A point of view?
Dear Bill, It's your insistence that these poisons are
"safe" (sic) that alarms me. If you had the slightest bit of
awareness regarding their harmfulness I would at least not feel as frightened.
You're like the guy carrying the bomb, and assuring me it's safe because it's
you who's dropping it. Crop dusting is your livelihood, so I imagine it would
be impossible to admit your potentially causing harm to other beings, and
continue to keep your your job. To keep your job, it's probably useful to
believe that what you're doing is somehow "safe". I also don't care
to argue differences with you; however I have seen the UC study proving
organic produces more. Besides, some of us don't really want more food, we
simply want to have an environment where us and are children don't have to be
exposed to poisons. And if I had my way, I'd love to see you put out of
business. James Smallwood Pesticide Awareness and Alternative Coalition By the
way Bill, you're probably thinking, "Oh Mr. Smallwood, just another
granola, another one of those environmentalist, tree huggers, doom-sayers".
Well, I'm not even an environmentalist. I'd like to go back to the days when
we didn't have poisons, and polluted air, back to the days when we didn't have
people like you poisoning our environment, (we had strawberries before we had
pesticides) and then making us wrong because we don't want to have to worry
about getting sick, getting cancer, having to deal with the stress and worry
of poisons in the air we breathe. I'm sick of people like you who feel
entitled and justified to poison our air, and don't seem to have the slightest
bit of conscience about it. On top of that, you treat us like a bunch of
stupid complainers, just a bunch of whiners, who because of some birth defect
or mental retardation are missing the part of their brain that should
understand you, accept you, even
embrace you for protecting us from all those bad, bad bugs. Do me a favor
Bill, just go away.
Hey Steve,
Did you here in Florida they are using TIDE laundry detergent in the clean-up process for Anthrax. Do you really believe they got Tide
registered as a pesticide before they began using it for this purpose. -
Dennis Young
No, "They" do what "they" want - whenever "they" want. Steve
From: ORGAN1C@aol.com
To: steve@getipm.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: Crop Dusters................A point of view?Dear Steve:
You do have some actual references late in your article. However, it is unfortunate to begin with "ENVIRONMENTAL RESEARCH" and give no reference at all as to when or where it was published. I know you have the references and I know it is a bother to list them. I try always to do so in our publications for the League of Women Voters and in NOHA NEWS (Nutrition for Optimal Health Asociation).
Keep up your great work. I forwarded two of your articles, including the one about "Chemical Warfare," to our church today.
Marjorie
RESPONSE:
Dear Marjorie,
All of my references prior to 11/5/95, were completely destroyed in an "accidental" fire that totally destroyed my office and a lifetime
of research, records, files, books, articles, etc. Previous to that another "accidental" fire completely destroyed my home. It no
longer is a bother to list them - it is an impossibility.
Sorry, Steve
P.S. I was speaking at ameeting a few years ago when a man came up and told me that he would be there for my third fire. He was
overheard by a State Police Officer in civilian clothes.